Conversation with a newager

The conversation picks up with a friend 'Doug' commenting to the newager 'arch angel Gabriel'.

Doug: ""Arch Angel Gabriel" ????? The New Age Movement is definitely mind control. What is= Truly is- not what you perceive----- It's just easier for most people to gravitate to the New Age because you don't have to do anything- just believe in Obama and think positive! Ask if his New Age Babble will protect him from the poli...ce state and the assasins that do their dirty work."

'Gabriel': "The light and love of source will protect all who serve it, my friend. Fighting has become yet another identity, another form of illusion and separation from the truth, and the essence of who you are. Fear is its basis.So many assumptions, so little wisdom. It comes from the Ego, from the mind - not from the heart, not from intuition, not from love.It is time to stop fighting, brother. What are you doing but caging yourself, your consciousness, in a world of fear and hatred? You are to awaken and remember your connection with all, your divinity, your Oneness. Through this you expand your consciousness and understanding. ... See MoreYou are still living in the illusion of duality, as that is your perception - which creates your reality. You can rise above it, transcend out of it - as many have, and are doing - or you can remain in it, fighting, and have it play out as you see it.Freewill is yours, brother. Choose well.Love and light ♥ :)"

Doug: "Fighting has little to do wth what I am about. Freewill is indeed mine and yours-The New Age Movement is about supressing Freewill and Responsibility= we all have to actually do something to save our nation. If I was in fear I would gravitate to the New Age- it's just easier as you don't have to do anything.Your video mentions "mind control" and the New Age is exactly an instrument of that of which it claims to liberate people from. Your civil rights, your property, your right to the foods and natural medicines of your choice is being stolen while the New/Old World ORDER OF THE ANTICHRIST hypnotizes you with pseudo Buddhist based Disinformation, so you are numbed and powerless to protect yourself, family and community.

These New Age power mongers through the Oprah Show, Scientology, Eckhart Tolle and other Disinformation outlets falsely assure people all they have to do is "think positive' and 'manifest their own realities" If you actually do anything real- you are accused of "being negative" Dude I have been through this silly game a thousand times with different people. It's so sad because the New Age deception seems to disenfranchise and spirtually deplete the most intelligent and dynamic of individuals. Of course, if the establishment can create an illusion for you while assuring you that you are transcending illusion- in a concurrent fashion they can destroy your freedom and you won't realize what is happening....

This New Age often twists Christian Principles and distorts Buddhist Philosophical Wisdom- One of the key elements to Buddhism is the understanding that IGNORANCE must be avoided- The New Age again falsely convinces people that they are "Transcending Ignorance" when in fact they are able to move people into an advanced state of Ignorance.The New Age also claims that anyone that deals with reality (not the perception of reality) is in fear. Don't mix up fear with RESPONSIBILITY- That's another instrument of the New Age Mind Control Mechanism- brilliant- but very diabollical.Waiting around for aliens to save us, possible perhaps-

How long you gonna wait brother? An orchestrated destruction of the economy, national infrastructure, national sovereignty and your mind and freedom is well under way and the Lucferian Masonic Hoodlums that designed the New Age are having a laugh while millions of minions fall for their chicanery!

Please don't take it personal- but you are the one LIVING IN FEAR & ILLUSION and if you don't awaken now you may never.Peace through Truth,Love through God and Conscious Understanding,I pose a challenge to all- rely not on what you believe so much as what you actually understand.Form a new reality through responsible action and adherence to a simple set of moral principles and a strong sense of nationalism (not faith in the current criminal government- but creation of one that is ONE WITH THE PEOPLE)I have lost too many friends to the New Age- hope you try to understand my concerns for you and the countless people who are conned into all thisPeace

Laurie: God bless you Doug.

Gabriel: "it's just easier as you don't have to do anything."
The souls who are evolving themselves spiritually, are conducting a global service by anchoring the new energy and light upon the planet. They are the ones creating great change - by following the path of love, while surrounded by darkness. They dispel the darkness, not through the perpetuation of negativity, but through transmuting it with their heart, into love. It is not an easy road - dropping the lie of the illusionary self - and one that cannot be understood unless it is walked and experienced. It is evident that you haven't as of yet, my friend.

Those on the path, are already experiencing the transition and the expansive energies of ascension. Those not aligned, are left denying - they remain in duality, and in throws between happiness and fear....

I come to you with an understand of both worlds, dear One. I am very aware of the tyranny that has existed, and I know how deep it's roots go. I was once a fighter - like yourself - fighting for freedom and against the injustice. That is where we begin when we awaken - but one mustn't remain. It is admirable service and a necessary step in the process of awakening - but there is more to this school of life than fighting the system - you must grow and evolve.

You must go within, evolve yourself spiritually, and recognize your inner truth. Your eternal nature, your connection with all, the Light and Love of source that is you, it is your very essence. This is the path to Ascension, this is what 2012 is about. We are evolving, right now. It does require an individual to do inner work, however. It just doesn't happen to them, they must consciously choose to do so. The path is shown, it is lit, and all who walk upon it are supported by Grace and the Divine. They must go within, to face the darker side of their being, the inauthentic aspects of themselves, and assimilate it - so that they can grow and evolve.

It is very much, "doing something." It is something far greater than fighting the system, as it assists the whole in awakening, as we are all connected (in a multidimensional aspect) to each other. This is something that takes a commitment and much courage - as dissolving the false self and all it's illusions is not a smooth process. Recognizing the lie of one's self is a tough pill to swallow, and a rough road to walk at first, but it necessary to evolve and ascend. Again, those on the path are very much supported.

Eckhart Tolle is a very wise teacher and a light for humanity. You discredit these beautiful messages because of what? A fear of being manipulated? If you listen to your heart, you need not fear, as it will always lead you to the light. You have guidance from your Higher Self, if you attune and listen. It speaks by the language of the heart - not of the mind, or of the Ego, or of cleverness. You are too clever for your own good, my dear brother. There is much to learn about the subjects in which you state, and affirm so adamantly. I would love to shed light upon any questions you have - if they are genuine and come from the heart.

Feel the energy you put into this message - what is its basis? Love or fear?

So you are going to fight... OK then, what are you going to do? Do you think fighting is going to work against a system that has enslaved humanity for thousands of years? Pitch forks and militia won't hold up well against billions of dollars in weaponry and infrastructure. Open your mind real wide, ask your inner most being - your heart - and see if there is something that you might be missing - or that you may have fallen into. It is OK! As long as one is honest to themselves. As soon as one acknowledges it, the lie is over.

Laurie: Evolving? Evolving into what? Darkness and lies diguised as truth? You talk a good game, yet you don't even use your real name, your very person and word is cloaked in a lie before you ever open your mouth to spread this message of condescending false light.

You pretend that those who don't believe what you believe are somehow living a life of fear. Well maybe some are, but the truth of the matter is you can only convince those who fear and because they SO fear, they'd prefer to live in delusion. I'm here to tell you and those who 'follow' you, that lies disguised as truth won't help anyone. They will only lead to destruction.

You talk about love, but for anyone w/ eyes to see and ears to hear you are posting a pro NWO, borderless one world government and religion message. You openly post on this maitreya character who claims to be the return of the christ of all religions. These people openly preach of lucifer. This is the 'light' you talk of and its a false one.

"What is the Plan? It included the installation of a new world order government and new world religion under Maitreya." Benjamin Creme (mouthpiece of maitrya).

Any Christian knows these teachings are anti-christian and have been well warned of this fable.

Mathew 24
23Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

We know where this leads:
Revelation 13
6And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. ...
15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

We would be told that the bible and it's writings and our interpretations are wrong, but I tell you this:
Galatians 1:8-9 But even though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to that which you received, let him be accursed.

Your prey upon the weak and the scared Gabriel. Some will hide in a cloak of lies because they ARE so afraid. But those who know God have no need to fear:

"For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind'' (2Timothy 1:7).
"He shall not be afraid of evil tidings: his heart is fixed, trusting in the Lord'' (Psalm 112:7)

Trust in the truth. God loves you. Repent and be saved.

† † † How to get saved: First admit that you are a sinner. For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23). Know that God has already provided for your salvation. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life (John 3:16). Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to his mercy he saved us (Titus 3:5). Ask Jesus Christ to save you.For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved (Romans 10:13) and Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved (Acts 16:31).Except ye repent ye shall all likewise perish (Luke 13:3)

(How to get saved borrowed verbatim from Keith Thomson, www.youtube.com/keithtruth)

Gabriel: I'm not here to argue, or to cause you any more angst, dear Laurie.

Followers? Like a religion or something? Sigh... I don't have "followers", I have a family - we are equals - we are One - we are the same. We are here to show the way, to beckon those who are ready - however, the path you choose, is up to you. The energy you live, is up to you. The world you create, is up to you.

"Real name"? Don't talk to me about real, dear one - your idea of god is as misguided and deluded as your anger towards us and our perspective. Your real name, "Laurie", perpetuates your illusion of separation, it carries your Ego, convictions, and dogmas, that have been indoctrinated into you by the powers in which you fight against.

Look at who and what you are fighting, now... Ever think you would be fighting against one who is spreading love and light? Peace and harmony? Which side are you serving, my friend?

Your idea of "real" is fighting against the NWO - yet speaking of a "Christian" perspective? One provided to you by your friends, at the NWO. Will you not acknowledge this? Will you not acknowledge that this system has sunk it's roots into all modern Religions and dogmas? Your Bible is as misinterpreted as your understanding of the teachings of Jesus and conception of god. It is very "real" and blatantly evident that Christianity is a controlling mechanism of the masses, just as powerful as TV. If you refuse to acknowledge that, refuse to examine your Ego and your dogmatic belief system, how will you ever expand your understanding, evolve, grow, ascend? Any "Christian" who quotes the book, as you do, is quite unaware of what is "real", dear Laurie.

"Your prey upon the weak and the scared Gabriel. Some will hide in a cloak of lies because they ARE so afraid. But those who know God have no need to fear"

Watch your words and intentions, dear one - they are seen. We prey upon none - we simply love - can't you see and feel it? Who is wearing the cloak, Laurie? You do not know god - do not play like you do, as your words carry the power of creation and influence others. Do not claim to know something you have a marred perception on. So much hostility in your words - it is blinding - we can feel it.

You have your reality, and it will play out as it may. I call you to awaken now to Oneness - in it you will find god and understand the teachings of Jesus. We'll be here when you are ready to let go of the chains that constrain you and step into the light. Step back and observe at how you fight against anything that doesn't align with your dogmatic and Egoic beliefs, dear friend. I send understanding and light to you now, listen from within.

Love and light,Happy holidays :)♥ G

Laurie: Is it ironic that you tell me I'm dogmatic yet you refuse to see the unwavering dedication you have to this ideology you carry. So sure that you are suddenly the group who has it right.

You talk about love, yet seek to influence people by degrading them. Calling them fearful to influence them and angry and hostile when they don't agree w/ you. That is love? No. That is manipulation.

I certainly do hope my words WILL influence others; yet it is not my words you speak of but the word I quoted of God.

It is your choice to follow and spread the doctrine of lucifer.

I follow the true Christ and God. Obviously we do not agree and it's best we don't post on each others pages anymore. I must at this point 'shake the dust from my feet'.